mozart-gtk - Farewell?

[Camilo Rueda]

Hi Kevin,

Same situation of lack of people for this here at Javeriana. I also agree
with Pavel's proposal.

cheers,
Camilo

> Hi Kevin,
>
> We don't have the human resources here at UCL to carry on with the
> development
> of gtk, so I think that the suggestion of Pavel is quite reasonable.
>
> cheers
> Boriss
>
> Pavel wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> While I don't know much about GTK I believe that porting to GTK 2 would
>> take a significant amount of time. Since there appears to be noone
>> taking care of the project full time it's unlikely we'll get a working
>> version soon. So I would say that dumping it now and then recreating it
>> if and when we have a working binding to gtk2 would be a good idea.
>> /pavel
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:54:02 +0100, Kevin Glynn <kevin.glynn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mozart lovers,
>>>
>>> I am writing about the future of the Mozart GTK binding.
>>>
>>> The following is just my understanding of the situation, I know very
>>> little about GTK or this binding so please correct me where I am wrong
>>> so that we have all the information to make a good decision.
>>>
>>> Mozart GTK is a native library that links Mozart apps to the GTK+ 1
>>> library. It was originally developed for the purposes of Alice when
>>> they were using Mozart as their virtual machine.
>>>
>>> GTK has moved on and GTK 1 has been mothballed for a long time, GTK is
>>> now at (incompatible) version 2.
>>>
>>> GTK 1 libraries are being removed from Debian, and so the mozart-gtk
>>> Debian package will be removed too, either by my request, or by
>>> default if I do nothing.
>>>
>>> mozart-gtk has an 'interesting' build process. It includes a C header
>>> file parser, and it generates the bindings to Oz automatically from
>>> the installed GTK header files.  This is neat technology, but it is
>>> also very fragile, the parser is sufficient for a subset of C, but as
>>> the C header files evolve this parser often breaks and has to be fixed
>>> up. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=419692 for
>>> the latest instance of this.
>>>
>>> I also note that the documentation for mozart-gtk is missing:
>>>
>>>  http://www.mozart-oz.org/documentation/add-ons/
>>>
>>> and nonone seems to have noticed.
>>>
>>> So, can anyone step up and fix mozart-gtk?  Can anyone port it to GTK
>>> 2? Can anyone rescue an improve the technology to automatically create
>>> native functors from C header files?
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I will ask for mozart-gtk's removal from Debian unstable
>>> (and thus the next Debian / Ubuntu release) in a week's time.
>>>
>>> I am also doubtful that it will be possible to release it as part of
>>> Mozart's next release (but that is not my call).
>>>
>>> Thanks for any comments, advice, help.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
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