GEdit OPI plugin

Torsten Anders torsten.anders at plymouth.ac.uk
Mon Feb 18 14:42:35 CET 2008


Dear Simon, Antoine and Yves,

thanks a lot for starting this project!!

On Feb 16, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Simon van der Linden wrote:
> My idea is very simple: to have an oz browser in the bottom pane,  
> and a
> "Feed Mozart with the selection" action in the right-click-menu.

On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Yves Jaradin wrote:
>> I'm also one of the student who would like to develop a plugin for
>> Gedit. Our goal is not to port the Emacs plugin to Gedit, with all
>> functionnalities. Our goal is more to do a plugin which will be  
>> usable
>> for everyone. We would like to keep the plugin quiet simple and
>> usable.
> If anything, I feel the Emacs plugin is too short (no intelligent code
> completion, no source outline, etc.) To be usable by everyone, a  
> plugin
> has to be usable by really everyone, including advanced users. I
> wouldn't like to have used it for let's say two years and when wanting
> to do something more complex, be told "Umh, you will have to use the
> Emacs OPI to do this."

Yves, how realistic do you reckon is it to aim for a IDE which will  
actually replace the OPI? Perhaps it would instead also be a useful  
goal for the new gedit-plugin to provide something which makes it  
more easy for new users to get into Mozart. Later, they may switch to  
the Emacs-OPI if necessary...

For example, the OPI has a lot of useful features already which were  
not even mentioned so far such as interaction with development tools  
like the debugger, profiler, compiler panel. Sometimes, can also be  
useful to access the OPI compiler from within Mozart. Also, in case  
of errors, moving to the next error is handy. Moreover, I am  
sceptical whether for advanced uses it is a good idea to hard-wire  
the gedit-plugin to some browser. In the OPI I am often switching  
between the browser and the inspector (e.g., I configured the  
inspector to support different 'viewpoints' of my data structure  
which are selected with the mouse). I sometimes also simply use show  
(e.g., then I can copy and paste the output). I am sure I forgot  
features... Are you suggesting the new gedit-plugin should in the end  
provide all the functionality as well?

Best
Torsten

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