AW: AW: Mozart/Alice future and GUI building.

[Khamenia, Valery]

Hi Peter and all,

> I don't understand what you mean by "mainstream". 

term was used by you (and not only by you of course).
Your answers were quite complete for my interests 
except the performance issue.

In addition to the issues you've meant, for me, 
"mainstream" means as well "performance able to compete".

> - Finally, our goal is not to put in all the "bells and whistles" of
>   an environment created by a software company.  If you want a full
>   IDE with all the bells and whistles, then you may have to put them
>   in yourself or find volunteers in the user community.  We will help
>   and encourage any volunteers.

I am a little bit frustrated with your concern about 
so called "bells and whistles". I am using Unixes for years,
and "command line" flavour is normal for me. However I see,
that good IDE with _good_ GUI prototyper is considered by 
you as "bells and whistles". With this concern making 
Mozart/Alice as popular as those Java/C++/C# is a REAL 
illusion.

Normally I use (X)emacs but I never say to my colleges 
"throw out your stupid GUIs, because (X)emacs is the 
only one real framework for software development!". 
I use (X)emacs because I (am happy to) make GUI design 
very rarely only. But, you know, the majority of 
world-wide end users tends to work *with* those 
supid GUIs.

..."bells and whistles".

how much nice functional languages does the world need 
to create else to understand, that 

   they all will sink in depth of Internet 
   until those nice functional languages come 
   IN FORM NEEDED AND APPLICABLE FOR THE MASSES? 

Isn't this grave of nice command-line functional languages 
big enough yet?

Come on! Let make Mozart/Alice the first popular functional language!
As I understand you have 2-3 year "umbrella" for this activity, 
it is more then enough!

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Valery A.Khamenya
Bioinformatics Department
BioVisioN AG, Hannover
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