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[Skybuck Flying]

"Jens Grabarske" <grabarske at dfn-cert.de> wrote in message
news:mailman.196.1097345089.9839.mozart-users at ps.uni-sb.de...
> Skybuck Flying schrieb:
> >>I don't want to convince, I want to explain, because that's what you
> >>asked for. An explanation. And I gave you one :)
> >
> >
> > I want to be convinced :D
> >
>
> Beating a bee hive with a stick is not exactly good if you actually want
> them to give you honey.

At least I woke the beezzz up =D

>
> >>Why should I waste my time implementing something you won't need?
> >
> >
> > I need a solution to feed my hunry brain that seeks a solution for this
> > nasty but interesting problem =D
> >
>
> You're right, it is interesting. That's why Computer Science came up
> with a general and generic answer to it as soon as people started to
> think about these kind of problems.

That remains to be seen since I am kinda skeptical :P =D
>
> >
> >>>If you can solve/program that problem in say a few days with oz it will
> >
> > be
> >
> >>>convinced.
> >>
> >>I guess 4 hours would suffice. I do normal freelancer work, so I would
> >>charge you the normal fee for that kind of task, say, including
> >>documentation and testing, 50¤ per hour. To give you a fixed quote, I'd
> >>say 200¤. Deal?
> >
> >
> > I think you are bluffing since the problem at hand seems difficult to
solve.
> >
>
> I'm not bluffing. Yes, you're right, the problem at hand doesn't only
> seem to be difficult, it used to be diffult. Used to be, because
> computer science already solved it and it's a standard algorithm. All
> you have to do is to take that algorithm and implement it.

What algorithm would that be, since google doesn't turn up much =D

>
> The very point in CS and the use of VHL languages is that you don't need
> to worry about problems anymore that have been solved for decades.

VHL ?

> So, will you give me 200¤ when I write an implementation for Oz and some
> documentation for you?

Oz source code is pretty useless for me since I can barely read it let alone
understand it.

The documentation will probably be to hard to understand also since I
(probably) do not quite grasp/understand
the concepts that are behind it ;)

However I might be interested to pay you a small ammount if you can write
something that

1. Actually works.
2. Actually works better than any solution I can come up with... like trying
random stuff :D
3. I can interface with it say via delphi, or any other means

Like xml, unicode, text files, binary files, sockets, web services,
programming interface, library...

Not all of these... just one (or maybe two) will do so that I can interface
with it.

So you can see it as the engine, the brain. You write the engine / the
brain.

And I write a test programm with it and maybe more :P

If it's really good and stable and bug free and I can interface with it and
it works... and it proceduces good results and it can scale up to say
100.000 computers and 1000 or 10000 packets/pieces I would be willing to
send you 100 euros =D

Though I have some more general question about Oz

1. Can it create binary distributables ? <- probably not... it probably
needs something like an oz runtime just like java.

2. Can oz work with xml and/or unicode ?

3. Can oz work with webservices ?

4. Can oz work with databases like mysql ?

Bye,
  Skybuck.